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Today we are fortunate to be with
Jim Cassina, the President and CEO of Energy Power Systems Ltd., which
trades on the OTC Bulletin Board under the symbol EYPSF, and the Canadian
Venture Exchange under the symbol YPX.
[OTCJOURNAL] Jim thanks a
lot for joining us today. Can you give us a brief description of
your company including your current annual sales and profit picture?
[Jim] We are an energy source
and service company. When I say energy source company, we are involved
with oil and gas exploration, development, and production. When I
say energy service company, I am referring to our engineering and off-shore
division, which is involved in building the massive infrastructure, the
mega-projects, currently in Atlantic, Canada to develop these off-shore
oil fields.
Our year ends June 30th, so we are
looking to report around $18 million in sales. This will not be a
profitable year because we are taking some breakdowns of our project developments
and power projects over in India. In terms of going forward we anticipate
a very good year for us.
[OTCJOURNAL] So could you
go on record as projecting how things look for fiscal 2002 which will begin
on July 1st?
[Jim] We are in our
first quarter of fiscal 2002. In terms of projecting actual numbers,
our regulations require that our auditors have to audit any numbers we
put out so we can't come up with any firm numbers. Again, we will
be reporting around $18 million in fiscal 2001 and in the first quarter
of this year we have around $7.5 million in backorders in terms of our
engineer and off-shore division. Our oil and gas division are actively
producing as we speak so it looks very good for us.
[OTCJOURNAL] So based on how
the first quarter went, if you stay on track for the rest of year of fiscal
2001 it looks as if you will have a 50% increase over fiscal 2001.
[Jim] A dramatic increase
in profit as well.
[OTCJOURNAL] Jim, give us
your vision of the company over the next year and your vision of the company
over the next five years.
[Jim] Over the next year I
think you are going to see us focusing more on the oil and gas exploration
and development, There is a severe energy shortage here in North America
and finding the oil and gas is a very important component of solving that
entire energy picture which is going to be a very critical part of our
going forward strategy. At the same time, our engineering and off-shore
division is really well positioned right now because there are some mega-projects
developing in Atlantic, Canada. There is this Husky Oil Backed White
Rose field is probably going to schedule to announce the end of August
or the beginning of September sometime that the go-ahead for another $2
billion floating production, off-loading and storage platform. We
are expecting our engineering and off-shore division to participate in
building some modules for that mega-project.
[OTCJOURNAL] Can you
paint a picture five years down the road where you hope to take this company?
[Jim] Five years down the
road I'm looking at some dramatic oil and gas production. I think
our focus five years from now, obviously in natural gas as opposed to oil.
I think our engineering and off-shore division will be well positioned
to participating in these on-going maintenance contracts which will be
the offshoot once you build these huge infrastructure projects. The
operation and maintenance of these projects becomes a very important revenue
stream for a company like ours.
[OTCJOURNAL] How could you
quantify the next years? Would you want to be a $100 million dollar
company? Is there a certain number or is the goal to grow at a certain
clip every year?
[Jim] In five years, I’d like
to be at 2000 barrels of oil produced each day in terms of the oil and
gas division. I would like to have three long-term operations and
maintenance contracts with the three mega-projects off the shore of Canada.
[OTCJOURNAL] Let's go to some
of the questions submitted by members of the OTC Journal. We had
hundreds of questions from our members but we condensed them down to about
five because they were pretty much the same.
I believe it was back in June when
you filed for a listing on the American Stock Exchange. Our members
would like to know, where you are in this process. Is there any chance
you will be declined, and if you get the listing, what are the long-term
ramifications for the stock?
[Jim] We are still in
the review process with AMEX. There is no foreseeable chance that
will be declined by the American Stock Exchange. The question is
more of when we will be listed not if we will be listed. Our company
meets or exceeds the minimum criteria in terms of net asset value, number
of shareholders and that kind of thing. The advantage for us to get
on the American Stock Exchange is that the specialist system versus the
market-maker system that AMEX operates under will smooth out the fluctuating
price of the stock.
[OTCJOURNAL] Relating to energy
prices, a lot of people want to know about your views concerning the future
price of natural gas and whether our not the company uses any hedging techniques
from these commodity fluctuations. Combining that with the price
of oil, how do you foresee recent OPEC policy affecting the price of oil?
And a lot of people asked about President Bush’s interest in Canada’s natural
resource reserve as he has mentioned Canada as a valuable ally for us in
terms of natural resources. How does this all affect your company?
[Jim] OPEC is certainly
the benchmark for fossil fuels throughout the world. However, what
I think you are seeing now in North America and Bush’s interest in Canada’s
natural resources which is primarily on the gas side, is that natural gas
is being priced at a higher multiple or component of the OPEC oil prices.
The reason for that is because a lot of the natural gas is now being consumed
by the major power plants in North America. I think you are going
to see continuation of that. I believe there was a Bank First Report
that came out in the 1990s and said that about 10% of power produced throughout
the North America was generated through burning natural gas. By the
year 2010, 40% of electricity in North America will be fueled by natural
gas. This will have a tremendous upwards pressure on natural gas.
[OTCJOURNAL] Do you use any
hedging techniques?
[Jim] Yes, first of all the
whole corporate structure is a hedge. We have the oil and gas exploration
and development division and the off-shore and engineering division.
The off-shore and engineering division are actively involved in projects
that take 3-4 years to build and the oil and gas division is actively involved
with the daily fluctuations of the price of commodity. However, not
withstanding that, we do look at selling forward gas when the prices are
favorable for that. We can sell it at from two to five years ahead if we
want.
[OTCJOURNAL] Many people have
been asking about your recent press release concerning your decision to
write down your intangible assets related to your India power project developments.
Can you describe this and tell us why you did it?
[Jim] Yes, I’m glad you brought
that up. We still have investments in India in Independent power
projects. We’ve made the decision to write those investments down
in terms of the development costs component of that investment so that
shareholders will be surprised on the upside instead of them being disappointed
on the downside. So it is a very conservative approach to our presentation
of our financial information. I think it is going to help the shareholders
understand where we are in terms of a bare bones kind of an approach.
And as I say, I’m still very optimistic about those projects in India,
we’re still developing those projects, and we’ve just decided to write
down those intangible assets that relate to those projects.
[OTCJOURNAL] Here is
one from the editors from the OTC Journal; a bulk of your revenues comes
from the M & M Engineering division, which provides construction services
for large drilling and exploration companies in Atlantic, Canada.
Can you explain how this division will benefit from the renewed exploration
projects off the coast of New Finland by these off-shore oil companies?
[Jim] The benefits are what
I call two tiered or even two term. The first benefit is the immediate
revenue from the construction contracts. As I mentioned earlier,
say we are $20 million dollar module for one of these off-shore projects
and complete that in a year or 18 months, we hit revenue and profits etc.
The big picture is after these infrastructures are built, we are well-positioned
to take advantage of the enormous maintenance contracts that naturally
fall when building these huge infrastructures.
[OTCJOURNAL] One last
question from our members, which I’m going to read verbatim from one of
our members named Ralph Seward, what most investors want to hear from you.
“What is there about your company that would make me want to buy it, where
do you see the stock price in one month, 6 months, and 1 year, and is there
anything about your company what will cause growth of the company and an
increase in share price and what is it?” Thanks for the question
Ralph.
[Jim] The first one,
the stock price, I cannot comment on because I’m not a licensed rep.
I can say that we believe that we will outperform our industry. In
terms of what can increase the value to shareholders would be if we are
involved with some of the developments and if we hit a rather large reservoir
of either gas or oil. That in itself, some of the assets that we
have on the books today, because of our accounting treatment recorded at
a cost value, if, as, and when we drill that and hit a tremendous reservoir
of gas or oil it will cause a tremendous upswing in company value which
certainly will affect the stock. The other thing is if you look at
our history we have grown by acquisitions and we have been fairly active
in that area. If something like that comes as a credo for investors
we would certainly pursue that.
[OTCJOURNAL] Well, one
of the things that we liked at the OTC Journal about your company is that
we felt we needed to represent a smaller energy company but we liked the
way that you were vertically integrated with having the oil and gas exploration
with ongoing revenue streams but also having the construction division
for the construction projects. So you have a good core business and
a lot of upside. Are there any small companies like yours with this
unique model?
[Jim] I think small
companies focus on one thing, get good at it, then turn into a bigger company
and integrate after that. We take this two tiered approach so that
we protect our shareholders, protect our company, and grow the company
at the same time.
[OTCJOURNAL] Jim, thanks for
spending the time with us today. I’m sure that shareholders and investors
alike are happy to hear from management. Ladies and Gentleman, we
will be back one week from today with another interview from our series.
We will be interviewing the President and CEO of MedGrup. Thank you
for your time.
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